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archives.cbc.ca The images are shocking. Armoured tanks plow into crowds of people, flames from burning buses light up the night sky, and bleeding bodies are rushed to hospital. For weeks student protesters in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square have been demonstrating for political reform of China’s communist government. A declaration of martial law has failed to quell the protests, and now the government has called in the military. Death is all around as the CBC’s Tom Kennedy reports. The massacre …

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25 Responses to “Massacre in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square 天安門事件 (June 4, 1989)”

  1. PriolTorcy Says:

    Où comment les 7000 membre du Parti Communiste chinois assassinent la jeunesse chnoise…

  2. pawelpocM Says:

    And if something had been done those days, american dollars would not be in control of the China today.
    Think the f&*ck before you act. Thinking doesn’t hurt unless you live in totalitarian country.

  3. yaknbo Says:

    WHAT is all this FM Radio sounding bullshit below? The people in China were and are tired of their government’s bullshit.

    Empirical. Inductive. Jesus.

    You talkers ruin everything you touch. From humor to sex. Just shut the fuck up. Freedom FOREVER!

  4. yaknbo Says:

    The “Peoples” army. What a joke.

  5. xSemperV Says:

    Allow me to give an example.

    Say we do a textbook scientific experiment and make a theory.

    But then we discover we are wrong.

    We then would have to repeat the process all over again.

    But then we discover we are wrong again.

    So on and so forth.

    We will NEVER arrive at a point where we can be without doubt. We will NEVER have an absolute truth. This is because we INTERPRET the data. It is subjective and prone to error. This is what science is good for. Don’t make it to be something it’s not.

  6. xSemperV Says:

    Wow… did you understand what “empirical” and “inductive” means? I mean if we collected data from this world objectively, we would have little use for science.

    So, again: We are OBSERVING phenomena EMPIRICALLY and we make INDUCTIVE conclusions based on these experiments.

    Because scientists are observers using subjective senses, science is not objective. Even if all the data is “true,” all of it is being processed through our minds, which may or may not be reliable.

  7. hexkid Says:

    Science is objective – the whole of science is based on the design of experiments that remove subjective bias. Experiments need to be repeatable and reproducible and which are not driven by the wishes/beliefs of the scientists.

    The creation of theories based on the experimental evidence is inductive but it is NOT subjective. The scientific method does not ignore the fact that the theory could be wrong. It is only good if it can be tested and possibly falsified, so that science progresses.

  8. xSemperV Says:

    Well if the biologist begins using strawman and ad hominem, it doesn’t matter how good his argument is, his pamphlet will suck.

    “…that the church has supported objective science…”

    I would like you to point out where I said this. I wouldn’t, simply because “objective” science does not exist. Inductive science creates empirical data based on observations, which is subjective. This is the basis for critical rationalism. To say science is objective ignores the fact that we could be wrong.

  9. hexkid Says:

    Congratulations on you education courtesy of Wikipedia.

    Asking Galileo to provide a document that gave equal weight to both models was obviously flawed. It would be the same as asking a biologist to write a scientific paper that treats Evolution and Intelligent Design as equally valid proposals.

    You seem to be defeating your own argument that the church has supported objective science even when it’s conclusions are not compatible with the literal interpretation of the bible.

  10. duguao Says:

    有同感!
    五毛狗真叫人讨厌!

  11. xSemperV Says:

    I take you do know I have only 500 characters with which to reply.

    No, the Pope was interested in Copernican theory. He told Galileo to be fair. Instead, Galileo published a Strawman argument. Have you read Dialogues? The tract was obviously biased towards Copernicanism. It also made no mention of Tychonianism, its competing geocentric theory with lunar tides.

    Galileo betrayed the Pope’s trust and embarrassed him in public, putting his very words in Simplicio’s mouth!

  12. hexkid Says:

    I think I have probably learnt more history than you. I take it that you do know that the pamplet’s full title is ‘Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems’ and was Galileo’s explanation of the differences between heliocentric & geocentric systems. The church did allow Galileo to write this provided he did NOT come out in favour of the heliocentric model.
    The only insult to the Pope was daring to question the Earth’s special place in the God’s plan and the literal biblical version.

  13. xSemperV Says:

    LOL. How much history did the schools teach you?

    Galileo was imprisoned because he wrote a pamphlet, the Dialogues, which insulted the Pope. Before this, the Pope was Galileo’s friend and ADMIRER; he was the one who ASKED Galileo to write more about heliocentrism.

    And Socrates and the Hellenic philosophers did not favor inductive logic, and until much later, the Socratic Method was viewed as sophistry. I will conceded thought that it provided the basis for the concept of a hypothesis.

  14. hexkid Says:

    Christianity can’t claim the credit for the creation of the scientific method. This can be traced much further back to at least the Greeks (especially Socrates) and the Hellenic philosophers.

    Christianity actually has a history of actually being opposed to many scientists whose theories contradict the literal interpretation of the bible. For example Galileo, Darwin & Giordano Bruno.

  15. VivalaChina Says:

    最烦五毛狗

  16. ru40342 Says:

    Chinese government and communist is piece of shit

  17. deedee1067 Says:

    Freedom, Democracy and Human Rights for China !

  18. nxy322 Says:

    哇。 所有那些灵菌身体和为什么? 它,因为他们有力量。 粪性交:(

  19. DontHarmFalunDafa Says:

    The comunist regime of China has been inflicting terrible horrible losses to the Chinese people it has been depriving them of their secular culture freedom and basic human rigths. Lika all villanies it wont last forever. The Chinese people will get their beloved country back.

  20. twomells Says:

    五毛狗知不知道共产党杀了八千万个中国人?斯大林都不过两千万, 共产党杀的人竟然超越人类两次世界大战的总合,也超越了五千年来 的任何一个朝代,直到今天访民被打死的情形每天都在上演,你说这  笔血债该怎么偿还?只能不断的用暴力及谎言维持政权罢了,不进行 思想控制就是倒台,总有一天中国会出现一百万个杨佳把网 上这群共产狗跟五毛狗杀光

  21. DonkeyTibet Says:

    stupid green card seeker. you are a loser.

  22. chinesheart Says:

    五毛狗知不知道共产党杀了八千万个中国人?斯大林都不过两千万, 共产党杀的人竟然超越人类两次世界大战的总合,也超越了五千年来的任何一个朝代,直到今天访民被打死的情形每天都在上演,你说这 笔血债该怎么偿还?只能不断的用暴力及谎言维持政权罢了,不进行思想控制就是倒台,总有一天中国会出现一百万个杨佳把网 上这群共产狗跟五毛狗杀光

  23. navycaptain911 Says:

    我看過了 可是你為什麼不想想看 為什麼裝甲車會開在馬路大街上?? 裝甲車不是拿來抵抗外敵的武器嗎? 為什麼會開在街上來驅趕我們年輕的學子?

  24. solarjar1 Says:

    non-sense, 1400 killed and 100000 injured.

  25. justsport Says:

    當城市越來越現代化~~鄉村越來越先進~~~中華文化就幾乎被消滅了~~~

    當中華文化越被現代化給掩蓋~~~而漸漸稀釋~~~我會越覺得對不起中華五千年的祖先~~

    請問~~有辦法阻止嗎~~~

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