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New generation light weight batteries for electric vehicles (6 views)
Aug-13-2008 By ZohaibJi / Posted in: Vehicles Videos Add comments
cplai asked:
The new efficient battery packs from Lithium House for electric vehicles. 10 times lighter.
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August 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
love it!!! looking to making an electric go kart!!\
dammit i need a bigger motor!
August 17th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Associates from MIT claimed to have found a way to contain 100x the charge in Lithium batterys, I completly missed its showing on “G4 Tech TV” So I have no further info.
My assumptions are, theyed have to be unstable, but its something to look into.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:30 am
and if that means you only charge you car once a day to do everything you need that enough cycles for just over 8 years of use before the batteries would need replacing.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
120 miles per charge
X 3000 available charges
= 360000 miles driven (x 1.609 for km = 579240)
yes the electric car is better! even at $10 per gallon.
MY car is 8 years old and only has 230000kms (142000 miles) on the clock so im not going to change the batteries under my ownership
August 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
120 miles per charge
X 3000 available charges
= 360000 miles driven (x 1.609 for km = 579240)
yes the electric car is better! even at $10 per gallon.
MY car is 8 years old and only has 230000kms (142000 miles) on the clock so im not going to change the batteries under my ownership
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
It was on the Beyond Tomorrow show. I don’t have the answer for your other questions.
August 26th, 2008 at 5:02 am
What program was this on? Beyond 2000 or Beyond Tomorrow? The spacey looking car early on in the video was featured in an article back in 1991 about two French guys who invented a ’source battery’. I wanted to see the vehicle go into production, but never heard another word about it. Wondered what happened?
August 28th, 2008 at 4:17 am
Did I mention you should only discharge the battries less than fifty percent if you plan on keeping them for a full lifetime of service, up to 3000 cycles, ie one charge equals one cycle.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
schnoo can have the 10 a gallon gasoline that’s awesome the big gas giants whill love you shtone ager
September 1st, 2008 at 12:39 am
Battery has many problems, longevity, capacity, weight, size, charging time/cycles, discharging rate, toxic material etc. every aspect needs improvement. Hydrogen Fuel cell has problem with the hydrogen production and delivery infrastructure unlike the well established electric grid. If I have the money I’d rather invest in battery research than in the hydrogen economy. When will Ironman share his secret power source?
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 am
We have everything to make the EV happen except the battery. I am really hoping fuel cell technology can get us out of this bind. We still would rely on hydrocarbon fuels however would be able to get many times the mileage from a single tank of fuel. We need to invest in MEMS research, and invent new technologies which have not been discovered.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
You are about right. Some people spent over $10K to upgrade their Toyota Prius to become a plug-in hybrid car that falls in the same ballpark figure as your estimates. EV and PHEV badly need some battery technology break through to bring down the price and extend the longivity. Regular consumers will not spend that kind of money regardless how clean the cars are.
September 6th, 2008 at 6:29 am
The Vech featured uses twenty-four one KWH packs do the math. Lasts 3000 cycles and will only get you 120 miles per charge. Fuel is still a better option. even at $10 per gallon.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
I read $1200.00/ KWH, with the typical vech requiring at least 7KWH.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
EV IS THE FUTURE!
September 12th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Their also very explosive
September 13th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I thought Lithium polymer batteries were the lightest? used in radio controlled helicopters where weight is very critical?
September 15th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Saw it on ISITEL
September 16th, 2008 at 1:33 am
no shit. some other people did this first. this guy just sec’d his way in.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
BMS = Battery Management System.
Measures and reacts to max and min voltage per cell to keep to cell from over charging or discharging and usually also balanced the cells when charging. Most RCs using Li-po can’t run without them.
September 19th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Thank you, you are right that they weren’t li-ion. They were Nimh rechargables. Same stats (2500mAh)..but they may be poor quality. They are about 25-50 cents each..rechagable more than 1000 times. What’s a BMS?
September 20th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
You have to be talking about non-rechargables i.e. once they are flat you bin them.
Rechargable cost quite abit more. A123 Li-ion cells as used in Dewalt power tools are about $10.00-14.00 a cell but will last 3000+ recharges.
I have seen 18650 (close to AA size) Li-ion batteries in bulk for as little as $3.00ea, but the technical specs for them were unknown. (i.e. if they’re rubbish they won’t last many cycles) That’s still $3000 to get 10kw/hr but you’ll need a BMS to make them last.
September 21st, 2008 at 11:28 am
I saw 4packs of lithium aa’s for $1. Buy a box or two of them and i’m sure your shipping can get down to $100.. you’d have to make sure they were all vented properly.
the batteries were 1.2v and 2500maH
September 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pm
If you use A123 cells 1000 will give about 9kw/hr, good enough for 100km range with a 1000kg car, but you’re way off on the cost.
The A123 Prius plug-in module that’s only 5kw/hr costs $10,000. If it was only $1000 we’d all be driving EVs NOW!!
September 24th, 2008 at 2:18 am
oops..100×100 = 10,000. You need 10-20Kw for average range. You should be able to get there with $1000 or less.